The vast majority of websites offering chat with hot Ukrainian women are delivering fake dating.
Of course, the hot women in the photos do exist, but they are not the people who are chatting to you online — the websites pay commissions to Ukraine-based agents (to avoid being sued in a court) who employ impersonators to conduct online communication from a girl’s profile. This keeps the scam at arm’s length, allowing the websites to pass the blame on agents.
There are only a few large online dating sites offering direct communication with real Ukrainian women seeking partners abroad. Elenasmodels.com is one of them.
How do the websites offering fake dating with hot Ukrainian women operate?
The “fake dating via impersonators” scheme is widespread. It is based on payment per each communication, which allows websites to allocate a certain share of the sum to the provider of the content (chat, messaging, videos, photos). It is also referred to as “pay per letter” or PPL.
The difference between websites that falsify dating with Ukrainian women via proxies and the ones where you are able to connect with a genuine person seeking a partner is simple.
The key question is this:
- Are you charged for each message?
If yes, then it’s fake fating.
Only when there is a payment for each communication, there is a way to hire an impostor to chat or message.
The funds could be paid upfront and then used in a form of “credits”, but you are still charged every time when sending or receiving messages though the site. If yes, you are on a PPL (pay per letter) website, and the communication is fake. It is only conducted to make you pay for as long as possible.
If you are not being charged for each message and able to communicate freely via any other means and messages (WhatsApp, Skype, email, SMS, etc), then you have a good chance it is a genuine person who wants to find a partner. Especially after you have moved off the websites to chat directly with video and started spending hours in online communication. Impersonators earn good money for such chats, so if a woman spends hours online to get to know you and you are not paying, then she is interested in you and not in the commissions per minute.
The complete lowdown on the dirty pay-per-letter scheme of fake dating with Ukrainian women
- The websites pay 20-50% of the revenue from the clients’ payments to the agent, as a commission for providing content.
- The website stipulates in its terms of cooperation with the agent that the women who chat online with foreigners should not be paid. If the websites’ checks reveal that the women are paid to chat with men, the agent is fined (but not fired). So, the websites know that the agents pay to women to chat with foreign men. Hundreds of ads on Ukrainian job portals advertise positions for such impersonators right now, so it’s not a secret what is really going on. But the website needs to keep the front in case they are sued (such attempts happen fairly often by the duped clients who figured out what is actually happening), this is why they pretend as if they do their best to make sure the chats are real.
- In reality, no woman would be chatting daily for 5-8 hours with dozens of admirers online for free. It is their jobs, for the impersonators who actually chat with men. They are hired by agents and trained do to exactly that, it’s their job description.
- To keep appearances, the women from photos are also paid a share of the revenue for allowing their pictures to be used in the listings. Part of their terms of engagement is to provide fresh photos and videos every week, and also show up on dates if a man decides to visit. (This is how the visits go, if it happens: A true story about dating in Kiev.)
- The girls from the photos also may get a call from the website’s administrators and have to answer questions about their online admirers, so they are being kept in the loop about communications by impersonators. Sometimes the agent assigns the impersonator’s mobile phone number to the profile, so the girl in photos (aka “bride”) doesn’t get such calls and the impersonator can easily answer any communication-related questions. Policies of the particular website are well known to the agent (who is using more than one PPL portal to earn money, there are only a few major players), so they know how to deal with any such “checks”.
Agents have a lot of work on their hands: They train the employees (brides and impersonators), liaise with website’s administrators, receive commissions and pay out the personnel, and so on. They aren’t getting rich for doing nothing. It is a well-oiled factory of dreams for trusting western males who are getting a beautifully orchestrated spectacle that looks rather plausible.
Can such scams be prosecuted?
Yes, this scheme is unlawful and should be prosecuted. But so far, in western countries it had been allowed to flourish, although governments of Belarus and China, for instance, made special steps to get rid of such fraudulent schemes in online dating.
The PPL scheme exists since around 2002, and managed to survive for 18 years. It was the most profitable around 10 years ago, when PPL websites were turning over astronomical amounts of money, achieving hundreds of millions of USD in revenue. It even allowed them to sell out to some private equity funds, the ones in which rich people invest to get high returns. (Guess why these scams are still running, although everyone in the know is fully aware of what is going on?)
The PPL scheme is extremely widespread in Ukraine, where the government doesn’t seem to be interested in prosecuting such scams. This is why if you are dating a hot Ukrainian woman online and paying per message, the chance of your being scammed is virtually 100%. Ukraine is the ultimate destination for this type of online fraud, people there even see it a legitimate employment, to work as an impersonator in dating chats. For them, “it’s just a job”, like any other, this is how widespread it is.
- In China, for example, there were such sites until recently, but over 600 people were arrested in a bust for fake dating.
- Russia, too, has no deep-rooted problem of fake dating via impersonators. Because of strong checks on citizens’ online activities, not many people would dare to participate in such schemes as an agent or an impersonator, knowing full well that their digital footprint is stored for months and the courts are convicting anyone the government wishes to put behind bars.
The information about scams in PPL dating started to pop up in 2006 and there are thousands of publications about this type of fraud online by now. It is not a secret by any means.
So, why is this still happening in 2020?
Hard to say, but there definitely seems to be no desire from western governments to prosecute such deceitful activities.
It is not the lack of knowledge or abilities to prosecute. For instance, Western Union was fined over half a billion USD for aiding in online fraud, because they were allowing Nigerian scammers to receive money transfers sent by victims from western countries — and they didn’t even own a network of websites that were recruiting potential victims for fraudsters. So, it’s only the lack of desire to go after such scammers in case of the PPL online dating fraud. Possibly, the connections to private equity funds may be the reason why fake dating with hot Ukrainian women managed to fly under the radar of federal watchdogs.
Certainly, the websites that run PPL dating schemes put efforts into trying to present a clean front and distance themselves from the scams. Their main point is that they are “only paying commissions to agents”, who are supposed to abide by the terms of agreements. Conducting some checks from time to time is also presented as the way of ensuring the integrity of communication, although as you realize by now, such attempts are easy to bypass, and administrators of the PPL websites know that too well.
In fact, the only way to stop PPL scams is to eliminate the agents as mediators, but then the blame for the fraud would fall directly on the website, so they will never do that. They will also never stop paying commissions to agents for letters, chats, and videos, because then the revenue would disappear overnight, if they did. It is a job, after all, for people who are providing dating chats on PPL websites. Why would they do it for free?
For authorities, maybe it’s just a too insignificant fish to go after, if you look at the great scheme of things. Or, quite possibly, the authorities want the scams to continue.
Why would authorities want the PPL scams to continue?
There is a certain social paradigm that is supported by such scams.
You see, the people who get scammed are lonely western males, who bought into the idea of finding a loving woman somewhere else in the world, since they struggle to find a romantic partner at home. This should not be allowed to mere mortals but only to high-flying executives changing the face of the world, right? 🙂
Rich and powerful men have been marrying foreign models for decades.
But to those who aren’t rich and famous, they should stay close to home and limit their aspirations to what is available, that’s it. That’s their social place and they aren’t allowed what is allowed to those high up.
This is why there are political forces, which would love to see the men who feel restricted in the current scheme of western dating and prefer to find a more traditional romantic relationship, being misdirected and abused.
This is one possible reason why the authorities and the media look away from this giant online scam, allowing the PPL websites to continue operate and rip off unsuspecting men who dare to look elsewhere for love.
They just should stick to dating at home, period. Is this why PPL scams are allowed to prosper?
You may think differently, but this is what I am convinced in, after trying for years to attract media’s attention to this problem. They just turn the blind eye on it, as if it doesn’t exist.
What do you think?
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Actually the UK Guardian did do an article on PPL Sites a few years ago calling such sites ‘Emotional Bed of Prostitution’, especially those based in Odessa or women? from Odessa. My investigations are such that all these sites should be classified as Sex Manipulation sites then the Authorities need not act. There are sadly 000s of such sites globally. But they are fraud when you are not contacting legitimately with a particular person whom you are being told you ARE. That’s the fraud. It gives poor old a bad name and God it has a bad enough time globally… Read more »