The other day I was explaining to someone how international online dating works, and the response was, “It doesn’t seem like a good way to find a partner”. But surprisingly as it may sound, at some stage it is the best way to find a partner for marriage and family.
Why dating Ukrainian girls is a good way to find a partner
For a minute, let’s forget about good ways of finding a partner.
Let’s talk about finding the right person to fill in a work position. Who do you think would be the best person for the job? Of course, someone with the necessary skills and experience, as well as high motivation to work for the wages you can pay, and really needing the job.
It works exactly the same when you are seeking a partner for marriage. If you are sure that marriage is what you want and need at this point in your life, it’s quite hard to find a person who wants the same things. In the western culture, the accent is not on marriage but on having fun, enjoying life, going with the flow, and so on.
It’s different in the Ukrainian culture
The Ukrainian culture is strictly directed towards creating a family. It is the way for mature people to ensure their kids are going to do well in life. Once the children found a partner and dedicated themselves to this person in a marriage–the official union of love, which is supposed to last a lifetime–only then the parents can relax.
Of course, Ukrainian parents still help their kids for a long time, because local guys and girls marry fairly young. But parents feel that they have done their job and now the future lives of their kids have the right direction.
In the western culture, once kids are 18, the parents feel that youngsters should now take off and make a life for themselves. No one expects a girl to leave home only when she gets married, which is typical for Ukraine, for instance.
How Ukrainian girls are brought up
Since they were little, Ukrainian girls are brought up that for a female her happiness is in the family. This means a marital union with kids. Living together is not considered a proper marriage; only officially registered couples have the rights of husbands and wives. If you are in a de-facto relationship, then you are strangers or neighbours in the eyes of the law.
If you chat to Ukrainian girls, you can discover they think that once they get married, their life will be complete and it will definitely become better. This is their view not only about a marriage to a foreigner, but any registered union, including getting hitched with a local man.
Finding a partner in Ukraine
This high motivation behind a search for a lifetime partner is what makes Ukrainian wives valuable.
Another reason is that right now Ukraine is in an economic turmoil. Since 2014 life is not stable and there is no definite answer when it’s going to be back to normal. People find it disheartening to start families in the country that has an armed conflict in the East, which is something that they cannot forget about, even if their home cities are safe. By getting out of the country girls feel that they will have a better chance to live a stable life.
So, the motivation is very high.
It is also for the same reasons a woman from Ukraine views a regular western man as special.
- Average wages in Ukraine are still below US$300 a month, while prices for goods are on par with the rest of the world.
- Your earning around US$3,000 monthly is viewed as a great income for a family.
Of course, women understand that money goes a longer way in Ukraine as compared to western countries. But there is still quite a difference in lifestyle and stability, which makes a foreign marriage attractive, especially if she could not find a partner locally, no matter how hard she tried.
Finding real love in Ukraine is possible.
Pitfalls of dating Ukrainian girls
The biggest pitfall of online connections with Ukrainian girls is PPL (pay per letter) pseudo dating. These websites pay commissions for generated content (chats, mail, photos) to service providers (agents), who have a direct incentive to hire impersonators to falsify online romances. This is only possible when you are charged for every message you send or receive.
But it is this industry, PPL, which permeated Ukraine’s online international dating scene. The earnings on fake communication are so lucrative that even long-term companies that started in 1990s switched to PPL, along with hundreds of totally fake scamming schemes.
The only way to avoid being scammed through fake communication is to NOT pay per letter.
Fortunately, there are still a few international dating sites featuring profiles of Ukrainian women that offer a transparent membership-based model (similar to eHarmony or Match.com): Elena’s Models is one of them.
Their high rate of success stories demonstrates that it is a good way to find a partner in Ukraine. If you want something real, the best option is to get real.
Read also:
- Dating tips and advice for men to succeed with beautiful Ukrainian women
- Top 4 reasons to date a Ukrainian girl
- If you want to marry a Ukrainian girl, make sure her mother approves
- Harry (USA) and Emily (Ukraine): The story of my wife and me
Elena, please write a similar article about Russian women, to compare and contrast Russian and Ukrainian women. There are YouTube videos about the difference between Russian and Ukrainian women, but I value your opinion and would like to know what you think. Thank you and keep up the good work. Eventually you’ll make real men out of all us Westerners. Thanks again Elena
Nanker, There are quite distinct differences between Russian and Ukrainian women now. 15 years ago they were similar, but now there are differences. First, Russian women are very patriotic. Ukrainians are much more open to immigration and see western countries as an example. Russians view their national ideas and ways as the correct way and like to emphasize their distinction. Second, it’s the widespread of PPL (pay per letter) schemes. They are nearly unknown in Russia, which has a strong government control and law enforcement. PPL is the biggest hindrance in dating Ukrainian girls. Most dating websites formerly known as… Read more »
Hi Elena, I would like to ask about the women/men ratio on Your portal? I am asking because I have read somewhere that it is 1:7 ( it was a page with reviews various dating sites ) Is it that bad?
Ideally if You have data, like who was active in last month etc. ( I think it is a good topic for Your english articles that I love to read:)
Thx
Paul, There are 12 women on Elena’s Models for every 1 paying man. 9 out of 10 men sign up but never upgrade as full members (Platinum or Gold), so they cannot communicate with women. On the whole, in 2016 men to women ratio (including non-paying free male members) on EM was: 58% of men and 42% of women for members active in the last 30 days. You can simply do a full database search on the site: from Home page click on Gallery Search and simply search by age 18-99. There are 514 pages of women and 422 pages… Read more »
I joined Elena’s Models about three years ago just to see what would happen. I had a year of Russian in the university in the U S and also go to the Eastern Orthodox Church, both the Greek and Russian Orthodox Church. As a result I have a fairly good background in Russian and Ukrainian culture. Through Elena’s website, I received a number of responses, some in America, some in Russia, Ukraine, and in Western Europe. Obviously, I contacted the American residents first. And little by little things fell into place. I ran into a a little of the “Cold… Read more »
Dear Elana, Please help me, I found the girl of my dreams and was going to visit her at the end of the month in Ukraine. We have been talking since oktober and we have discussed marriage and her and her sons moving to the UK. Last week she became very quiet and when I finally got hold of her, she told me her mother was very strongly against her being with a foreigner and she is afraid of losing her, I have tried every argument possible but dont know where to go from here. I have my flights booked… Read more »
yeb,
Which website did you meet this “Ukrainian girl” on? If on one of these PPL (pay-per-letter) sites, where you are charged for every message, then it was simply all fake. The girl has only signed up to get %% $$$ from what you pay for letters and gifts. You pay for communication, right?
No, I met her on EM and I have never paid for anything. She has also never asked me for a penny in all those months
yeb,
Well, then it is what it is. You can only respect her wishes and wish her all the best in the rest of her life. Start talking to other girls and remember to ask the most important questions in dating Ukrainian women. It would also help to get the VIP Coaching Manual and follow the steps. There is no point trying to convince someone to do something they don’t want to do. There are plenty of Ukrainian girls who really want to find a partner and ready to move to another country.
Yeb, Speaking from my own personality, not as a professional dating coach … If I am dating a real woman, then I must also “date” (win over) her circle of family and friends. Although my focus is on my woman, I make it a point to interact with all family members and friends that I meet, and to make them feel that each one is important to me and to the relationship (sincerely). So, is there anything you can do to make the mother feel included in her daughter’s new family? On the other hand, if your woman is a… Read more »
Rex, You have a point: when you date a woman, take time to get to know her family and friends. I look at the situation from the point of view of realities of online dating. It’s easy to think you are in love after some chats online. It’s a completely different thing after you start thinking about realities and logistics. Truth is, you do not even know what is going on. It may be not her mom but the father of kids who is not giving permission for them to leave the country. The woman may have gotten “cold feet”… Read more »
Hi Elena! This is my first time writing here, and I wanted to say I agree with you 100% on the reasons why looking in Ukraine is an excellent way to meet a wife. I was a bit of a late bloomer in deciding I wanted to get married – late 30s – and then ended up in a couple of relationships with inappropriate women from the US. Inappropriate in the sense that they were just not marriage material for various reasons. I proposed to my live-in girlfriend of 2 years, and she said no, she wasn’t the marrying kind… Read more »
Mitch, thank you for the kind words. Great to hear that you found the woman you always dreamed about! Yes, the courting game is very different in Ukraine, way different to what men are used to in the U.S.
That’s why I suggest guys to check my VIP Dating Coaching Manual for men dating Ukrainian women. It makes everything much simpler to understand and complete successfully.
I’m curious since you’ve mentioned it before. What would be considered to be to low of an income?
Josh,
People in Ukraine earn on average around US$265 a month (7,480 hryvnia a month in November 2017, according to Ukrstat.gov.ua), which is $3,180 a year. This is the average (normal) income in Ukraine. Naturally, anything lower than that is low income, higher – high income 🙂
If you are dating Ukrainian girls, keep it in mind that their level of income is very different to yours, but prices for goods are the same (although prices for real estate and food are cheaper).
Is it the same for Russia as well or is it a little higher?
Josh,
Wages in Russia are 2 times higher than in Ukraine, and in cities like Moscow or St. Petersburg – 4 times higher than average income of Ukrainian girls.
See wages by country (post-USSR countries) here.
Elena, you wrote,
“This high motivation behind a search for a lifetime partner is what makes Ukrainian wives valuable”
Isn’t this equally true for Russian girls who are in their 30’s, 40’s, etc.?
Or do you recommend focusing exclusively on Ukrainian girls?
I’m willing and able to move to her country, but I speak Russian not Ukrainian. Seems in present day Ukraine, the Russian language is in decline.
Your thoughts on this are much appreciated. Thanks in advance
Nanker,
Yes, Russian women have similar motivators to Ukrainian girls regarding family, when seeking a partner abroad.
No, I do not recommend concentrating on Ukraine (or Belarus, or Kazakhstan, or any other country for that matter) when your goal is to find a lifetime love.
This post simply explains why it’s actually a good idea to date Ukrainian girls if you are seeking a good partner for marriage–as opposed to a common view, “it doesn’t sound like a good way to find a partner”.
Hello Elena! I must say you have a very nice site here with all the comments! I try to do a lot of reading about things before I do them, and dating is no different. I have read that a good Ukraine lady is hard to beat, both in beauty and romance. My little town was settled from some Russians, but most things have relaxed. I am an old school guy, open doors, leave notes, little things that matter type of guy. I have read a lot on here, and just to be a honest, trust worthy, nice guy, goes… Read more »
Frank, Thank you for the kind words and welcome to Elena’s Models! 🙂 The short answer to your question: Yes, you can find the type of woman you are looking for. Look for the interest “gardening” in women’s profiles; most Ukrainians and Russians have what they call “dacha” (read the post through the link). Women who are into gardening and growing flowers at home enjoy the connection with nature and the land. Things that Ukrainian girls on dating sites would love to read in your profile: – I want to create a family with the lady who first of all… Read more »
Elena, You sure make some good points! I am very glad I found this place and you. I might have to be careful, if I have a lady come visit, she might like the outdoors and not want to go to town! We will see, a lot of work and mostly time before any of that will happen. It is sad that the agencies and the people in them, feel it is alright to deceive people. How do they sleep at night? It is an example of what money does to people. Since you are from over there right?, what… Read more »
Frank, Make friends with Mr. Google 🙂 You can find out precisely what Ukrainian girls talk about. Type “news” into google.translate.com and get a translation to Ukrainian. Then copy the word in the search box and go to websites you see in results. To understand any page, copy the URL of the page (address in the browser) into Google Translate in the opposite direction and you will be able to read the website. Mostly, Ukrainians get news through mainstream media about the USA show business and celebrities, a bit of politics, but rarely industrial news. And the easiest thing to… Read more »
Hey Frank, I have been on EM for not quite 12 months. First I have to say you have many questions that should be put into doing something yourself and working things out. My experience is you can’t get hurt via the internet and communication if you don’t send money or make stupid commitments. Frankly it’s all about your own accountability and not the other side’s issues. I jumped in early and took the VIP coaching program that basically answered all the most important issues about dating Ukrainian girls and how to handle things, after that I just used the… Read more »
My dream is to marry beautiful Russian girls and Ukrainians. I’m serious . I am an artist man. I am ready .