Communication with Ukrainian WomenWe have been writing about it for a long time, but some guys who are communicating with Ukrainian women still waste a lot of their money using pay per letter and paid chat schemes.

If you are chatting to a Ukrainian woman or exchanging letters where you are charged for each message (PPL, or pay per letter), the likelihood of you being taken for a ride is extremely high.

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Young Ukrainian women have mobile phones for communication — all 100% of them. This is how young girls communicate in Ukraine today.

It is exceptionally easy to chat to Ukrainian women, because they all have mobile phones and use Viber, Whatsapp, Skype, and Snapchat.

This is how young women communicate today in Ukraine.

Don’t believe in stories that it’s “more convenient” to talk via a pay-per-letter dating site — it is only more convenient because you have to pay for each message, so that they can earn money on your hopes to meet a lovely Ukrainian woman for marriage or relationship. (This scam has been even featured on Dr. Phil.)

Time to catch up on what is going on.

How communication with Ukrainian women really works in 2015-2016

Translations are available for free through multitude of translation apps, and most applications today are offering instant translation between tens of languages (Skype does).

A person who only wants to talk to you if you pay for each message is not interested in you but in the money they can make from you (and other suckers gullible foreigners who don’t know how things work in Ukraine).

Don’t be naive.

Internet is cheap in Ukraine, and there is free Wi-Fi in cafes and even on buses and trains.

Ukrainian women who really want to find a partner overseas are not on these sites where men are charged for each letter. They are on the dating sites where they can exchange contact details and jump on Skype the same day or after exchanging a few mails. They really want to meet you, and not talk to you for ages.

This is how genuine communication with women seeking relationships work.

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Luke
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I wondered about this as I’ve been talking to a Ukrainian woman by email for some time now but says she doesn’t have Skype. I have lots of photos from her and the details of her life sound pretty normal but still seems odd she can’t get on Skype. Says her phone is too old. Do most have computers too?

Joe
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Luke, take it from me, these PPL dating sites are just a money making scam for many people in the process. If you look at the profiles on this site for Ukrainian women, 99% say they speak some level of English. This is very important since it opens the door for genuine one to one conversation, sooner than later. However, this is NOT the objective or to the benefit of the participants of the PPL sites. Almost every woman on the PPL sites SAY that don’t speak English, but there is a really high chance they do. The site, translator,… Read more »
Ralph Kramer
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I have used the cut and paste with Google and uncovered 4 scammers this way. I was communicating with a lovely girl from Poland who seemed to be genuine……until she asked for money for a cell phone repair. I asked her to take a photo of the receipt and send it to me. I seen the receipt and the first thing I noticed was the date. It was July 2, 2015. I sent this girl money this month (December). I even translated the wording on the receipt….and, it had nothing to do with any cell phone repair. Until now, she… Read more »
Denis
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I think it would be a good idea for women to have to pay to join elenas models as well as men who currently pay. It doesn’t have to be the same amount of course but maybe a much smaller amount. I say this because I think it would filter out the women who are genuine about looking for a relationship with a foreign man with women who are not serious about a relationship. I went to Kiev recently and had a bad experience as the girl I met seemed only interested in me taking her out to expensive restaurants… Read more »
Joe
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Hi Denis I went through the same scenario in Odessa earlier this year after communicating with a lady for months by emails. I matched with her from another site which was PPL. The thing that convinced me she was real and sincere was the actual contents of her letters to me. At no time did she ever mention money or anything sexual, which I thought was proper. But her letters were large and very personal, talking about both our families lives. Each time I revived her daily letters, I let my best friend read them. He was also convinced she… Read more »
b
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Joe, you wrote- video is a must.

But why you did not disscuss a time-table of your meeting before visit? You could inform exactly, how would you like to spend time and create a time-table, like tourists do.

b
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Elena, you wrote-It might happen that the girl didn’t feel the right chemistry and connection, but felt obliged to accompany you and show you around. In this case, she was doing it just of politeness, trying to be a good host, while having no desire to proceed with a relationship. But maybe a girl just do not know what to do in this situation? And what to say, how to behave ? I am a rational thinker, and probably I will not start the first meeting with the kiss. And even on the second meeting I will not to hug… Read more »
b
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Denis, you wrote- I went to Kiev recently and had a bad experience as the girl I met seemed only interested in me taking her out to expensive restaurants and buying her expensive meals.

But why you did not discuss time-table of your meeting with girl before visit?

Joe
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Hi b Your point is quite right about planning the meetings and what you both want to do together. As a professional person who manages multi-million dollar projects, I plan EVERYTHING that is in MY control. Before I left for Ukraine, I booked my flights and hotel and had a plan agreed with the lady. However, on the last few days prior to my departure, her plans changed a number of times, so I kept to my flight schedule. On my arrival I booked into the hotel late evening. We were supposed to meet early the next day, but the… Read more »
Joe
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Hi Elena I am not surprised by your response, your feedback is much appreciated. What I can tell you about Joseph, is he has plenty of sex drive. I am experienced enough to let a woman know that she is highly desirable to me, believe me. You see, it’s all about the build up and anticipation, not if IT,S going to happen, but when, where and how. If two people click, it SHALL happen, but there’s nothing nicer than THAT ANTICIPATION. going through the romantic build up, for me, is very important. ALL women, from my experience, really want to… Read more »
b
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Joe, it is very good that you are trying to understand your visit. But I can say, that looking for women ( life partner) in Ukraine is exectly the same, that looking for life partner in general. I think, that conversation and mutual interest are based on common traits, interests, values that characterize two people. If your cat or dog is important to you- speak about this. If you like tv show- speak about this. If you like to cook or not like- speak about this. Discuss the things that are important to you with Ukrainian women, like with ordinary… Read more »
b
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Joe, what is interesting to me in reading the comments like yours is that I understood that men are really interesting in marriage. I always was thinking that men do not plan exact marriage, they just enjoy time-spending in looking for marriage, thinking about marriage.

But personally me – I am afraid of the responsibility of my choice. I can imagine a situation, that can happen, when man that I like ask me to be his wife and I would be not able to say him-yes

b
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the western girl doesn’t feel she is “100% in” if she had sex with a guy, the Ukrainian girl does.- Elena, I am a Ukrainian and live in Ukraine all my life, and I never heard this idea about ukrainians…

b
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“If a man shows sexual interest, I will run away”. If a man has no sexual interest in you, what is he doing with you at all? – I think, he has sexual interest by definition, but I would like to know WHAT HE IS DOING WITH ME& And about clothes- you are right. Two women, about whom I told you above, disliked the italian s man sweater. They informed me, that his sweater had many of the little balls of wool on the surface, like a sweater, that was worn. That is why they considered man not attractive. By… Read more »
Naph
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Ну, скажите мне, пожалуйста, Tell me please, do you consider the site “Beauties of Ukraine” a “ppl” site? The ladies are very gorgeous (not all of them) and you can watch video of them. The want the “credits” system and it can get quite pricey if you look back and add it up. I have one lady from there who followed up and communicates with me in private at my own email address – one out of three who promised to since I started this past summer of 2015. Я жду ваш комментарий в ответ. I await your comment in-return.… Read more »
Naph
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Thank you. I met a lady via coincidence and Elena’s back in 2010. She was generous to me and seemingly smart for two years of our daily Skype “dates” and then, when her dad died in 2012 she changed a bit with more silence. I went on Kiev to visit her in the fall of 2012 – she had fled to Italy on job tip from her girlfriend there, only to return by year’s end when her father was ill. She didn’t tell me she was going to Italy. So I hung out by myself and a buddy I met… Read more »
Joe.
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Naph I spent 6 months on one PPL site (SBL) and the ladies there are stunning, but as i said previously in this blog its just a scam. Like you i managed to get private contact details from some ladies after paying to open 15 letters in each case. Then what you find is they come up with all sorts of problems in their lives that restrict when they can email you. Its simple, they are getting no financial gain from you by private emails = NONE. However, they shall look for any “help” you might want to offer. After… Read more »
Naph
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Joe: Thank you, Spacibo for your reply and wake up call. Nina came out of left field back in May of 2010 shortly after I posted on Elena’s and sent so many expensive gifts to me and even my mum (shawl, white chocolates several times), over 100 photos and we exchanged soo many commonalities during our many Skype “dates”, You Tube videos and fun until mid 2012 when she began to lose hope I would ever really arrive to Ukraine to meet her as I worked through a passport issue ( I found out I owed back-taxes and Nina even… Read more »
Naph
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Coincidentally, a mutual acquaintance emailed me this old link from a fundraiser my Ukrainian lady and I created to fund our union from 2011. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/cafeskype/cafe-skype-a-lil-multicultural-love-overcomes-obst To see this again after so long (Kickstarter will not delete it) makes me sad.

Joe
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Wow Naph That lady sure did mess your head up with what sounds like her genuine intentions. But it also sounds like her head went AWOL at some point in time. May be the issue with your passport gave her some doubts about your genuine intentions? From what you say though, she sounds as if she had some serious family issues to contend with in her life, and that could affect most people sadly. Personally , I won’t go onto another PPL site. At the moment I am very happy with this site. It might sound a bit strange of… Read more »
Edward
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Well, two weeks ago, I had no choice but to resort to the PPL sites again. I went to Zaporozhye December 8-15 to meet a woman from this site: Anna Id=E2147541158 I have a son who lives in Voronezh, Russia…I travel frequently to see him….his 4th birthday was December 3…so for me it is no big deal to travel to nearby Ukraine…although it just got harder no thanks to the Ukrainian government’s recent temper tantrum….who banned Russian airlines from entering Ukraine….so I can no longer take a direct flight from Moscow to Kiev or viceversa. I had to go to… Read more »
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